Akizidy214 From Jamaica, joined Sep 2006, 305 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 870 times:
Should be a good route for MQ..... Coke has a big factory down there and the local scuba divers should appreciate another option in Latin America out of DFW.
I often wonder why COEX flies to more than 25 destinations in Mexico, and Eagle not even half that. I would think IAH and DFW are somehow similar markets, and they both operate ERJs.
ElmoTheHobo From United States, joined Aug 2006, 965 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 683 times:
Quoting Juventus (Reply 4): I often wonder why COEX flies to more than 25 destinations in Mexico, and Eagle not even half that. I would think IAH and DFW are somehow similar markets, and they both operate ERJs.
While CO flies to more destinations AA carriers far more passengers.
Commavia From United States, joined Apr 2005, 6144 posts, RR: 45 Reply 8, posted (11 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 621 times:
Quoting Juventus (Reply 4): I often wonder why COEX flies to more than 25 destinations in Mexico, and Eagle not even half that. I would think IAH and DFW are somehow similar markets, and they both operate ERJs.
Houston is a much better hub. It's further south and thus closer to Mexico, allowing CO to push the RJs much farther into Mexico.
Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 5): While CO flies to more destinations AA carriers far more passengers.
Not sure about passenger numbers still, but I know that in terms of ASMs, Continental and Delta have now surpassed AA because of both of their massive pushes into Mexico in recent years. Continental now has 13.8% of U.S.-Mexico ASMs, Delta 12.1%, and AA 11.9%. Mexicana is still the market leader - by far - at 22.6%. Big surprise, though: on the basis of frequencies, Continental blows everyone else out of the water - 1,152/week compared with 694 for #2 Mexicana and 602 for #3 AA. All these starts are per the September issue of Airline Business.
Akizidy214 From Jamaica, joined Sep 2006, 305 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (11 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 595 times:
Quoting Commavia (Reply 8): Houston is a much better hub. It's further south and thus closer to Mexico, allowing CO to push the RJs much farther into Mexico.
The only reason I can think of that puts IAH in a better position than DFW is the fact that Houston has the 3rd largest Hispanic population in the US while the DFW metroplex is somewhere in the top ten. Other than that MQ could start DFW - to anywhere CoEx flys and have the same amount of sucess. If and when this scope issue is straighted out you will see an expansion from DFW into Mexico on EMB145's. Range of the EMB is not an issue from DFW.
ThePinnacleKid From United States, joined Feb 2005, 331 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 394 times:
Quoting Akizidy214 (Reply 9): Range of the EMB is not an issue from DFW
Actually it is an issue... just because MQ and XE both operate ERJ's doesn't mean they are equal.... the type of ERJ is a huge factor... there are several destination in Mexico that COEX serves exclusively with EMB-145XR's... XE is the ONLY operator in the world of the XR which is like a completely different ERJ than the rest of the variants.... it has much better hot/high performance with payload increases, reduced fuel burn, and increased range....
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Pzurita1 From Bhutan, joined Sep 2002, 1211 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 382 times:
Quoting CODC10 (Reply 6): While CO flies to more destinations AA carriers far more passengers.
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7): I thought CO surpassed AA quite recently to Mexico.
Quoting Akizidy214 (Reply 9): in terms of ASMs, Continental and Delta have now surpassed AA because of both of their massive pushes into Mexico in recent years.
As per September 2007 CO (Continental and Continental Express) carried more pax between US and Mexico than AA (AA+AE):
CO: 2,5559,751
AA: 2,316,730
Juventus From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2404 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 360 times:
Quoting Pzurita1 (Reply 13): As per September 2007 CO (Continental and Continental Express) carried more pax between US and Mexico than AA (AA+AE):
CO: 2,5559,751
AA: 2,316,730
Thanx for the info, it was only a matter of time. After CO and DL's additions from LAX, I knew CO would overtake or come pretty close to AA.
I assume on this list, MX follows on third place???
Commavia From United States, joined Apr 2005, 6144 posts, RR: 45 Reply 15, posted (11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 355 times:
Quoting Juventus (Reply 14): I assume on this list, MX follows on third place???
I'd imagine that MX is probably way, way out in front in first place, far beyond Continental and Delta. From the U.S. side, CO is #1 and DL #2, with AA #3, but overall, I'd be willing to bet - seeing as MX is so massively ahead of everyone in ASMs, they're probably also way ahead in passengers carried, especially considering that they don't fly anything smaller than A319s on their massive amount of flights to the U.S., whereas probably 2/3 or more of the CO flights south of the border are with 50-seat or less RJs. It's an important point to remember: for every three RJs CO or DL sends to Mexico, MX can send one A320 and carry the same load of people.
EXAAUADL From United States, joined Jun 2006, 3311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 342 times:
Quoting Commavia (Reply 8): Continental and Delta have now surpassed AA because of both of their massive pushes into Mexico in recent years. Continental now has 13.8% of U.S.-Mexico ASMs, Delta 12.1%, and AA 11.9%.
I wouldnt expect that DL will remain ahead of AA for too long
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